Fritjof Capra in dialogue with fellows from the IK Systems Lab, Jack Manning Bancroft and Tyson Yunkaporta. Fritjof shares his accessible translation of a systems view of life – a four-part logic sequence that sits well in dynamic relation with Indigenous Knowledge. Creation is not just about patterns and replication, but the inevitable pattern-breakers that give rise to mutation, elaboration and emergence. What is intelligence, sentience, creativity and imagination? And magic? Well, that is simply what science might refer to as non-linearity. Wonderful yarn.