The Other Others – What Doesn’t Kill You

  Vanessa Lemm, Executive Dean at Deakin University and secret Nietzsche scholar, explains how Will to Power is really Will to Relation, and how a ‘return to nature’ is not evolutionary regression. And how she tells my knife-fighting stories to her children as bed-time stories. Prepare to knock the misogyny and fascism off your Friedrich[...]
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The Other Others – Gamilaroi Feedback Loops

Through the Deakin University Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab, we have unlikely, borderline seditious and kind of inappropriate yarns with surprising people about how an Indigenous complexity science lens can be applied to solving the world’s most wicked problems. There’s gold at the margins, but almost no trigger warnings, so enter at your peril. Podcast artwork[...]
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The Other Others – Aboriginal Disaster Response

Naomi Moran and Ella Bancroft from the Koori Mail yarn about the emergency response to massive flooding in coastal New South Wales, a rescue operation led by Indigenous women who continue to organise community around ongoing management of the greatest disaster of all – settlements that have been built in the wrong bloody place
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The Other Others – Wahled Fortresses for Armageddon

Big yarn with Daniel Christian Wahl, the expert of experts when it comes to intentional communities and cultural systems emergence. We talk about our discomfort when people use our work for purposes we’re not really aligned with, why intentional communities fail and why so many people are into it at this moment in history.  [...]
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The Other Others – Extinction Offsets

Dead air warning – sometimes we need a few moments to think before we speak. Those silences are not dead, but full of life, so we didn’t edit them out. Also some explicit language so earmuffs for the bubs. A ‘think tank’ session with some of the mob at the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab, beginning[...]
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Research Fellas

Free range research yarn with Dr John Davis, head of the Stronger Smarter Institute for many years, now moving into our Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab as a leader. We talk about Bunya nut story and interspecies communication as a methodology and economy, ranging through many topics, from solar panels in the Sahara to how to[...]
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IK Systems and Climate

Chels Marshall is a Gumbayngiirr woman, a marine biologist who works across multiple disciplines with Indigenous Knowledge Systems applied through a complexity/systems thinking lens. Her PhD was on Indigenous Knowledge Systems and climate change. We’ve worked together on the Regenerative Songlines project and will soon be working together in the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at[...]
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Bees, Growth and Moral Panic

Best yarn ever with Katherine Collins who is a sustainable investment guru and chair of the Santa Fe Institute. We mostly talk about bees, and the weird way people project the best and worst fantasies about reality onto those insects, and then spend the second half of the yarn trying not to do exactly the[...]
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Policy, and Other Illusions

Australian economist Nicholas Gruen, working at the dangerous space in between economics and policy, puts my pop-science brain through boot camp, which I always appreciate, and tells me why complexity science and systems thinking are policy fads that won’t last beyond the next election cycle. He talks me through a paper of his that I[...]
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Psycho-technologies of Memory

Lynne Kelly, the ‘memory whisperer’ in beautiful dialogue with Tyson Yunkaporta (the ‘settler whisperer’) about embodied, place-based, storied memorisation techniques used the world over by cultures retaining pre-industrial traditions. Lynne is the author of The Memory Code and Memory Craft, and if you’re interested in how your entire life and community of relations might be[...]
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